Beiträge von ei6

ok,
therealkickers:
I am not writing this thread based just on values found on internet.
But they completly confirming what I wrote.
I wrote this thread on my own long time experience with EIZO s1910.
And I know that I am not only one with this meaning that there is something with it.
Picture is nice at first sight , but if you look at it for long hours every day you will feel it.

Some words from your post can be debatable ("big company"-compared to what ? , "relative low values"-quite big diference in values don't you think?)

Another update from

LG L1960TR - 230Hz
Samsung 931C - 335Hz
Samsung 932B - 245Hz
Samsung 960BG - no backlight flickers
Philips 190C7FS -238Hz

I just want to update my thread

Another tested monitors at :
Acer AL1917Csd - 467Hz
Acer AL1951Cs and Ds - no backlight flickers
BenQ FP91GX - 340Hz
Fujitsu Siemens ScaleoView H19-1 - 230Hz
iiyama ProLite E1900S - no backlight flickers
LG L1900R - no backlight flickers
BenQ FP93GX - no backlight flickers

more tested to come

Also started to test those backlight modulation frequency.
Some of their measurements:

Samsung SyncMaster 305T - 240Hz
Acer AL1916 - 266Hz
ASUS PG191 - 220Hz
ASUS MB19TU - 340Hz
Dell E196FP - 320Hz
LG Flatron L1900R (Ring) - 260Hz
LG Flatron L1960TR - 260Hz
Samsung SyncMaster 932B - 320Hz
Samsung SyncMaster 940Fn - no backlight flickers

So thats what I wrote about. No one else uses so bad backlight modulation frequency as eizo do.

On CRT monitors maybe the lower frekvency is acceptable because of the beam draw is consecutive changing from up to down. And not the full screen at once.
Also on CRT mabye there is some phosphor slowdown.
On CRT you also don't have the text so sharp as on LCD.

But those things are just thoughts.

>Videocameras usualy only record at 30 frames/s or 25 frames/s, so what are we supposed to see?
Have you tried for example the sport mode ?
You will see very hard blink compared to other monitors.

Here they have explained the measurement procedure.

But it is in Czech language. Maybe some webtranslator can translate it to you.
It is too bad that most reviews doesn't test those i think essential backlight things.

From svethardware.cz I got values:

Samsung 214T - 320Hz
ViewSonic VG1921wm - 220Hz
LG L245WP - 220Hz
HP LP1965 - 300Hz
HP LP3065 - 240Hz
ViewSonic 22"-iPod - 220Hz
Asus MW221U - 240hz
Philipsu (200P7ES) - no backlight flickers
Samsung 971P - no backlight flickers
Philips 190B7 - 100Hz
ViewSonic VX2025wm - 240Hz
Samsung 215TW - 224Hz
EIZO S1910 - 142Hz
SONY SDM-E96D - 442Hz
Samsung 970P - no backlight flickers
Samsung 931BF - 335Hz
SONY SDM-HS95PR - 442Hz
ViewSonic VX922 - 382Hz (60Hz multi)
ViewSonic VP930 - 225Hz
Samsung 193P+ - no backlight flickers
NEC 1970NX - 225Hz
LG L1970HQ - 225Hz
Hyundai L19T - no backlight flickers
HP L1955 - no backlight flickers
Fujitsu Siemens P19-2- 333Hz
Belinea 101915 - 200Hz
BenQ FP93GX - no backlight flickers
Acer AL1923 - 375Hz
LG Flatron L1970HR - 170Hz
HP LP2465 - 165Hz
Philips 200W6CS - no backlight flickers
HP LP2065 - 227Hz
Asus PW201 - 220Hz
Belinea 102035W - 250Hz
Formac Gallery 1900 - 230Hz
EIZO S2110W - 100Hz
NEC 20WGX2 - 208Hz

Those values may be not fully objective without other info.

So I mean Eizo uses very bad backlight frekvency.
Don't you belive - just look at your Eizo screen with videocamera set at sport mode.
On s1910 eizo uses very high luminance backlight located right under screen to achieve high contrast and also uniform backlight.
But their backlight blinks are very sharp shaped and very low frekvency.
This make you feel you are illuminated . If you lower down the brightness you may think the light is lower but it is harvesting your eyes with flickers(of full and low light).

I know that you wont see it flickers at 142 Hz by eyes . But when you look at it for hours belive me you will feel it.

you also cannot compare CRT to LCD flickers . If I remember right CRT uses something like half-frame blinks and on LCD you get full frame blinks.

Why then most manufacturers use alot higher frekvency ?
Here are the measurement facts :
Eizo s1910 - 142 Hz

For example Samsung 214T - 320 Hz

Feel free to look at other LCDs:

the specifications under are uder name "Regulace jasu"

I know those good webpages are in czech language, but i think you can find it there. I dont know other webpages which did such measurements.

For example s1910 is very hard on eyes.
The backlight has bad construction.
It blink only at 142 Hz while most other companys
uses more than 220 Hz 300Hz and more than 400 Hz backlight.
Some other manufacturers products use backlight that has no flicker at all.

So I think EIZO is very BAD monitor company.