Beiträge von Dani50

Hello Chrisz,
Sounds good. Please let us know how you get on with it.
Dani.

Thanks for replying, Traveller. It did help to improve my understanding.
If I have got this right with a standard gamut monitor a calibration profile can be used in either the managed (aRGB) or the unmanaged (sRGB) colour spaces but for wide-gamut monitors it can only be used in the managed space so I should not get a wide-gamut monitor.

Most of the better bigger monitors seem to be wide-gamut so I think it is back to 2x 19" or 21" .

I agree that the factory settings are not to be relied on so I do want one that I can calibrate and I want the ISP panal. Just a coupe of questions if you don't mind. Is S-ISP standard-gamut? and do I need to make sure it has LUT?

Dani

I am bit confused, traveller.
Here you say the NEC LCD2690WUXi would be a good option for me as I want good colour accuracy and especially uniformity, but I only sometimes use colour managed software but most of my work does not. On the thread about the Eizo S2231W I responded to your post about wide gamut monitors (which was also not strickly about Eizo S2231W as your quote was about a Dell 2407 HC display) you advise against it because it is wide-gamut. This monitor would seem to have better colour unifirmity across the screen but I don't need an extended colour range so I was looking for a way of using a profile when with colour managed software but have reasonable colour when not.

Dani

This may sound very stupid as I speak from ignorance. If you buy a wide-gamut for reasons other than the wide gamut and it is calibrated with non-wide-gamut software would the over-saturation of some colours still occur? I say this as the over-saturation is attributed to the wide gamut, but that probably over-simplifies. The monitor I would like is wide-gamut but I don't use colour-managed softeware very often.

Since the discussion on another thread about colour shift I have started looking at the more recent ISP panels instead of PVA as colour shift seems to be not uncommon there. I have abandonded the idea of two monitors for one big one and have been reading about the NEC LCD2690WUXi. I was particularly attracted by the "ColorComp" feature. The results in the test on brightness look impressive.

The NEC website describes this as a H-IPS A-TW panel and your site as a AS-ISP panel. Could you first please explain what these terms mean.

The only part of the review that causes me any concern is
"The crystal effect for which this panel type is known is still present in the H-IPS panel on the LCD2690WUXi, but it is much fainter than in older-style IPS-Panels." I have no opportunity to look at any ISP panels so I do not know what this looks like. Is it possible to descibe it?

I regard color uniformity over a large area as very high on my list of priorities, I don't play games and probably will not use it for watching DVDs. It is for work applications, which is mostly software development with some office applications and a bit of graphics. Color is important to me and I spend most of my life looking at the screen, and I'm just fussy. Do you think this a good buy for my requirements or is there something else I should look at first? I cannot afford more.

Dani

Thanks Chrisz for your reply in English.

I can understand your discomfort with the colour shift, it bothers me too. Some people don't seem to notice it. I bought a 15" Dell Ultrasharp a couple of years ago. I noticed it first with the grey tool bar in Office applications which had a lot of yellow in the right hand end. It was at its worst with a purple screen which was red in the top left and blue in the bottom right and only the colour it should have been in the middle. This wasn't dependent on head position. The problem was much worse on the new monitor than on a much older 15" Ultrasharp. Dell made me try all sorts of tests to look for interference on 4 different monitors before giving me my money back. They even tried to say it was a problem with the motherboard. It was searching about on the internet for that problem that informed me that there are different panel types, though it is only on sites like this that the panel type is given.

I would like to see reviewers look specifically at the colour unifirmity across the whole screen. I had thought the tests on colour accuracy would pick it up but it doesn't seem to have in this case.

Dani

Thanks for directing me to the translation of Andi's review which was so thorough and helpful. The bleeding between colours as illustrated in your second email is exactly what I wanted to get away from, and why I do not want a TN panel, so I hope the original author's experience is not typical.

The quality as described by Andi and traveller is just what I am looking for but I cannot find a suplier in the UK. I want 2 monitors so 22" is about as big as I can afford. Any suggestions?

Dani.