URGENTLY - which one is better?

    IMHO the 970p
    (note: the only button on this monitor is the power button, so all settings will have to be made using software)

    oops, sry.
    I must have confused it with the 971P, as this one is more comparable to the 190P7ES in terms of their technical generation.
    Aside from its dithering problem, the 970p is rather "old" (considering the average product lifetime in the LCD monitor market).


    Are you pressed between the two, or are there other alternatives available as well?

    I'm not pressed between the two but I was looking for monitor which has absolute warranty for any kind of pixel defects. I was considering ViewSonic VP930 as well, but it's my first time to hear for that company.
    Is there any way to find out if Samsung had put 8bit matrice in 971p model?
    I don't want to pay 400€ for monitor which has dithering problems if you can understand me.

    Personally, I don't find dead pixels to be as striking as they are often made out to be. Most of the time, there is alwas some amount of dust on one's screen which looks pretty much like dead pixels, yet ironically, people do not regard dust particles as annoying as dead pixels/subpixels.


    The 971p is still kind of new, so overall performance can not be reliably judged yet. No dithering reports so far. However, there are some contradictory user reports that noticed some ghosting while some review and many other users claimed the gaming performance to be superb. ?(

    1. How can I be sure that Samsung put 8bit matrice in 971p?
    2. And how can 8bit matrice have 6ms response time?
    3. How big is deficiency that 971p doesn't have OSD and has no buttons on the frame?
    4. When will prad.de make complete proffesional review of this monitor?
    Thank you!

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    1. How can I be sure that Samsung put 8bit matrice in 971p?


    The 971p uses an S-PVA panel, whereas the 970p had a PVA panel. If there was any dithering on the 971p, it would probably have been mentioned in some forum by now. I'd be very surprised if Samsung didn't learn from the mistakes made with the 970p.


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    2. And how can 8bit matrice have 6ms response time?


    Overdrive.
    Manufacturers specs should always be taken with a grain of salt, as independent measurements often tell a different story than what's on the data sheet. Among millions of pixel shift response time measurements for each of the countless different color and grey changes, it is common for manufacturers to only state the very lowest they could come up with.
    If one was to calculate the average response time of all these measurements, it would be somewhere between 10 and 20 ms for some of the today's fastest LCD monitors.


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    3. How big is deficiency that 971p doesn't have OSD and has no buttons on the frame?


    Not big at all, (if you're ok with using Magictune).


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    4. When will prad.de make complete proffesional review of this monitor?


    afaik, no review for the 971p planned right now, - or at least not anytime soon.

    I found ViewSonic VP930 and it seems to be very good monitor. Can you please compare me VP930 with Samsung 971p? VP930 uses AUO panel so it must be 24bit?
    Philips 190P7ES isn't in the game anymore.
    Dilemma is now ViewSonic VP930 and Samsung 971p?
    Thank you!

    The vp930 indeed seems to be a very good monitor. However, you might want to make sure to get one of the newer revisions, as early revisions of the vp930 showed some banding on gradients. Although, oddly enough, it was possible to avoid this banding effect by keeping the OSD contrast setting of the VP930 close to 50 percent.
    Of course, the best way to be really sure would be to compare them both side-by-side in a local store.

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    Of course, the best way to be really sure would be to compare them both side-by-side in a local store.


    I agree to that, but I'm from Croatia and I'm happy if I could find a store with Samsung 971p on the shelf :-), no way I'll find vp930 working in the store.
    Thank you for advices, I think I'll buy 971p. I read almost all reviews on the net, including Slovenian, Serbian, Bosnien, German and all english web pages, and people are generally satisfied with monitor, only have complaints that this model (971p) doeasn't have swiveling (like 970p does) and that they see ghosts in some games. But I can live with that, because I was working on Dell S-PVA matrice with RP of 25ms and it was excellent monitor for me, theb I purchased Dell with MVA (only better contrast than previous one) which was incredible also but both were 17''. Now, I'll need 19'' so I think Samsung 971p will be next week on my desk. If it has RP like my Dells, I'll be more than satisfied. And Dell had 25ms RT in declaration, but this Samsung has 6ms (wow!). And ghositng? It can only approve that Samsung hasn't done the same mistake like 970p model when they've put 6bit panel and included dithering to get 16,7 millions of colors instead 16,2.