NEC 1880SX vs. Eizo L685

    I have tried... ehm... six LCD monitors :rolleyes:


    At the end I have decided for a 18'' IPS.
    Colors are better and text is sharper.


    Eizo is a super monitor, and I suspect it use NEC panels.
    I'm right?


    So, what's the best buy for image quality Eizo L685 or 1880SX?
    ?(


    I don't want to change the seven monitor... :D



    Thanks

    Zitat

    Original von miomao
    I have tried... ehm... six LCD monitors :rolleyes:


    Well ... I've been told both of us should drink less beer and disperge our money for TFT's :D :)
    ()


    Which LCD's did you try?

    I'have tried:


    Philips 150S3F
    Samsung 191T
    Sony X82
    Acer AL922
    Samsung 172T
    Eizo L565


    I don't drink beer :D


    Eizo is the winner.
    with the best OSD and color accuracy.


    When I sell the Acer I think to buy a L685
    and use it for long time... :rolleyes:

    I forgot... a Dell 1900FP, but I haven't tried it.


    Sure... I buy all monitors to same store
    and then returned.
    So they returned something on my head. :tongue:


    It has happened me all this because
    I am trusted of the reviews. X(


    Strange that the best monitors
    have very few or no reviews.

    Hi miomao,


    i think just a few guys here have such experiences with different Panels.
    Whats your opinion about the X82? Did you try games with it? I think, for office-applications it definitely usable.


    Thanks for answers. Volker

    About Sony X82 I can say...


    Construction is solid, but the frame is very wide.
    So avoid black color, because it create too contrast
    from the screen and the environment.


    His IPS panel (someone say LG/Philips) has a strange "crystalline effect" I don't like so much... but is a subjective thing.


    Sub-pixel order is BGR instead of the standard RGB.
    Using ClearType fonts in multi-monitor configuration ca be a problem, because it can't be configured differently for any display.
    Obviously no problem if you use all X82.


    I find IPS panel ghosting less annoying and less variable from colors.
    With Unreal it seems better than 25ms MVA/PVA panels.


    Color accuracy is great, and you can see dark tones of colors than other LCD cut entirely.


    Yes, no problems for office-applications...
    and with digital connection the OSD allows
    more controls than others... but not good as Eizo.


    I think Eizo L665 or Nec 1880sx can be strong rivals.


    Ciao :)

    Thanx for that quick answer.


    But I wonder what crystaline efect means. Can you explain that a bit? Strong rivals sounds like being at the same level. I am relieved to read that, because there's a LG Panel in the X82 like in NECs new 1860nx.
    So, like most other PRAD-users say, the playability (or generally the ability to display fast motions) is less influenced by the paneltype.


    Sorry about my poor English (have to improve )


    Volker

    miomao


    Cleartype in Windwos XP since Service Pack 1 ist now also optimized fpr BGR orientated (IPS-)Panels. So there shoudl be no more problem, if you are using Cleartyp of this operating system version.


    @vkneisel


    The crystalline effect we former discussed in other threads. In there it comes to the conclusion, that in dependence to the panel technology and to the viewed picture the different subpixels placed next to each other are able to see. Probably this fact is responsible for this optical effect.

    It's not easy to explain the "crystalline effect". :(
    Like Weideblitz say is a optical thing.


    With Eizo L565 this effect is much smaller, so not all IPS panels has.


    BGR sub-pixel orientation is not a problem because don't have ClearType support, but because is rare.
    So, if you buy a X82 (BGR) as primary display and other LCD (RGB) as secondary...
    you can configure ClearType only for the primary or the secondary, not for both.


    I think panel technology is important in respose time.
    A MVA/PVA panel speed is very dependent from colors.
    You have white<>black very fast and green<>brown very slow.


    Unfortunately paper response time is nothing. :rolleyes:
    Acer AL922 and Samsung 172T are faster than Samsung 191T but all have 25ms on paper (!)


    "strong rivals" sounds like being at the same level, but personally I found the Eizo better than Sony and any other.


    The L565 worth any Euro... and I hope the L685 too.


    Ciao

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    Original von miomao
    So, if you buy a X82 (BGR) as primary display and other LCD (RGB) as secondary...
    you can configure ClearType only for the primary or the secondary, not for both.


    Oh yes, you are right. Maybe Microsoft cares about this in next century..:D

    Can be very few people has BGR + RGB LCD multi-monitor combination...
    but is the same for LCD + CRT.


    Micro$oft is too busy to make dancing dogs and cats (like in WinXP search)... ;)