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I'm thinking of changing my old CRT monitor for LCD. Philips 190P7ES look really appealing to me
except things sad here about it's color fidelity.
Since my main hobby is photography and I wish to have less or more accurate colour reproduction when needed.

I wonder if it's possible to calibrate monitor when needed to have better colour fidelity?

have I wrote too much?

Thanks for answer, Andi! I'll be glad if you could help me a bit, as I never had used LCDs long enough to feel is it suits me or not.

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The most reason for eye problems is the monitors are adjusted to bright. A LCD is much more brighter than a CRT. And if you work at night in a dark room, you need ambient light.

What about brightness regulation by lamps or lcd matrix does latest put less load on eyes? Regarding ambient light I'm not using any but if switch to LCD definitely try your advice.

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To recommend a monitor is not the problem, but I need some information about the applications. And a prize limit.

here is my profile:

• Most time I spend in Firefox on forums and reviewing sites for my directory and BlueFish(code editor): 80%.
  

  
  

• My biggest hobby is photography, I'm doing occasional retouching and distribute my photos (mostly for free, as otherwise I would by good monitor already ), that's why I'd like to have acceptable color fidelity, maybe not all the time but at least to tune monitor for photo retouching when I need it: 10% (in near future I plan to do more graphic works)
  

  
  

• During work I'm watching recorded sitcoms from tv tuner in small window and sometimes watch films with my girlfriend: 5%
  

  
  

• Since I'm Linux user sometimes I'm using console and it would be nice to have good look for low resolution when display is in text mode: 4%
  

  
  

• I'm occasional gamer, GTA and SimCity are two games I can play when have free time, I didn't play for some months already but in future I hope to have more time for this.: 1%

Regarding price range and shops, I'm living in Ukraine and would like to deal with local shops to have warranty service easily available, although prices here are quite different e.g.
Dell 1907FPV(b) - 300$
Philips 190P7ES - 386$
Samsung 971P - 461$
and ViewSonic VP930 and NEC 1970NX are 483$

Other brands are hard to find or totally not available, except LG which I don't like because of bad experience in the past.

So originally I was looking for Dell 1907FPV(b) but can't find any information about it's color fidelity and performance.
Philips 190P7ES meet all my expectations according to your review so as ViewSonic VP930 although Viewsonic price is a way to high for me in current moment and Philips isn't recommended in review for graphic works.

Maybe you can tell if Philips 190P7ES could be tuned to have better color fidelity when I need it or recommend some other model I overlook(I've seen in prices Acer, Belinea, HannsG, Prestigio).

Hi! I'm currently on SyncMaster 750ST CRT which have maximum refresh rate 85 for 1024x768.
Since I spend a lot of time working on PC (sometimes 10 or more hours per day) I thought about switching to LCD but it appears that some people have eye problems with them too.

I'd be appreciate to hear feedback about particular models of monitors and how do they affect your eye in good or bad way.

PS Currently I have these monitors on my list so if anyone could comment on them that would be really helpful:
Philips 190P7ES
Dell 1907FPV(b)
Samsung 970P
Samsung 971P
NEC 1970NX
ViewSonic VP930

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Originally posted by tm101
Hehe, you need to join the European Union! ;P

I wouldn't mind this if prices for food and other goods wouldn't rise, this way I would be able to travel without visa to any EU country BTW our government really wish to join EU, I've heard that they would cancel visa for most of EU countries and would hope that these states would do the same... time will show how it would be.

BTW I've watch today 19" monitors (some LG and Philips models), and I finally decided that wouldn't go for 19 inch, dot pixel is so too big for me... guess it wouldn't be pleasing to work with such monitor and look at these big pixels. Now I'm only consider 17" models and nothing more.

Thank you very much for online shops, I'll search through them and see if I can get something which would suit my needs from 17" sizes and with lower prices than here!(pixel checking before sending is something I'd like to get).

BTW I'm using Siemens mobiles for a long time and find them superior to other brands, so I really trust to this company and maybe would look for Fujitsu-Siemens P17-1 and
Fujitsu-Siemens P17-2 in the shops you've suggested and see if it's worth to choose one of them instead BenQ FP72V.

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But several Shops sell to other countries, though I have no idea how support is handled then. I did some Google-Ukraine search and it seems as if the VP191 costs about 560$

yeah, I know there are shops in Kiev(our capitol) which have such prices for bulk orders, but if I try to order from one of such shop I'll probably pay 20$ for shipping so there is no sense to order it from them if I can get it with local shop for 600.(anyway as I said before I'll not look at 19" from now).

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Originally posted by tm101
By the way, you wont have to buy it in England. Transport from Germany to England costs about 30 Euros, maybe you can find an even cheaper opportunity somewhere else.

Unfortunately I live in Ukraine not UK, otherwise I had better selection in choosing LCD models
I already thought about ordering Viewsonic VP191B from which have offered by good shipping rates and price itself but I'm not sure how customs would treat my package and what would be if I need to send it back for warranty reasons.]
But thanks for willing to help me and advices you given!

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Originally posted by tm101
The Benq 91E looks promising, but some users didn't seem to be perfectly happy with it. Didn't read through the threads though.

thanks! I will add it to my list as well

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Originally posted by tm101
Both wont produce wrong colors once they are calibrated I guess, it largely depends on the display, not necessarily on the type of panel.

has done several reviews on TFT displays including some colour accuracy test (before and past calibration for many models). also includes colour accuracy tests.

Thanks for links! I've already come through all their reviews to see if I can get some model on local market, but unfortunately they are revewing high cost models or those which are not presented in our shops at all.

BTW I've arranged all things which I've found about LCD monitors in post on my forum, e.g. it contain monitor models and matrix they are using(it's based on Russian post which was translated) and other useful URLs, maybe someone would find it useful when choose LCD:

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Reading through the threads my general impression is that IPS panels are less varying in viewing angles while VA produce higher contrast (deeper black levels).

yes I've got almost same feeling although some tells that colors are better on VA and other that IPS is superior, that's why I asked you, as for black level there is no second opinion from what I see.

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You might not be happy with the dot pitch of 19" models though, since it's the largest among all display-sizes. Largely depends on your personal taste though.

of course I prefer smaller dot pitch, my pocket as well So guess that I would try to look for Nec 1700NX a bit and if not would go with BenQ FP785 or BenQ FP72V. Too bad that I couldn't find any reviews of this displays so I probably had to buy cat in the bag...(all LCDs are have to be preordered in shops, all monitors which are available on stands are TN+Film based ones)

just got responce from PC shop and they told that couldn't get VP181 for me Although I'll keep looking for it in other suppliers.

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Originally posted by tm101
Maybe you can find an older VP181, which is an 18" display with an LG IPS Panel.

thanks for your reply tm101! I've already check for Siemens-Fujitsu but the only model I've manage to find is 19-1 and it is available for $853.82 So guess it would be hard to find bargain here...
What about BenQ models, do you have any good bad opinion about this brand(BTW fp72v use samsung matrix from what I know, not sure if it's good or not )? since it seems to be the only affordable choice for me now.

BTW maybe you could tell which technology S-IPS or MVA/PVA have advantage in colors, since one sources tells that *VA is better, and other that it produce wrong colors so I'm not sure which is truth, or it's all depend from particular monitor?

Hi Tm101, it seems that you posess a lot of knowledge in LCD displays, maybe you can check this thread Help!? 17" LCD for photography work and give some advice about monitor I should look into, as my main aim is photo editing therefore I'm looking for good colors but I'm limited on funds.(and I also couldn't choose models from Samsung as they had no controls on monitor and I'm using Linux OS).
Thanks!

thanks for suggestion Rinaldo! although Eizo model cost here $769.36 in time when ViewSonic VP191b cost $590 And actually I hardly can afford monitor which cost more than 500 USD That's why I asked about BenQ FP72V which is available here for $464

folks I've same aims(I'm in digital photography and limited on budget so looking for 17" model), Samsung 173P or 173P+ looks like a good options although it has no controls on the screen and since I'm using Linux there would be no way I can use MagicTune...
I've find few other models using VA technology
BenQ FP785, BenQ FP72V, Fujitsu-Siemens P17-1, Fujitsu-Siemens P17-2

Unfortunately I was able to find only BenQ models available for ordering, I still looking for Fujitsu-Siemens but seems that they are not shipped in my country...
I wonder how good are they, does anybody use or had any exprience with any monitors mentioned above?
Thanks!