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Originally posted by vripp
I wanna know too what a panal is jused in the c19-7.
The datasheet looks like a TN Panel but FSC write viewangel 170° ?!
That drives me crazy !

The color dithering is not a TN panels exclusive.
There are IPS and VA panels with wide viewing angle and dithering.

I have seen the ScenicView C19-4 panel serial number... but I don't remember where.
The manufacturer is AU Optronics but definitely is not exactly the same of ViewSonic VP191.

I have some doubt the panel is the same of the ViewSonic VP191.
The data-sheet report 16.2M colors that usually means use of dithering.

I think this is the first Samsung 970P review... in Hungarian language.

Also if you don't know Hungarian, there are many photos and other useful stuff.
They use the excellent PixPerAn to test response time and take a short video under Quake III.

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Originally posted by Zaphod1hmm the color on this photo set looks nice, its a greytone which is quite different from the official photo, which is black/silver

I suspect that the VP930b is anthracite and looks grey in the photos because the strong illumination.

The base have a funny mechanics.
Only a review can say if it's stable and practical as the VP191.

Someone are saying that the VP930 will be available in Europe from the beginning of October.

Very good photo set of the VP930b:

The ViewSonic Europe VP930 page and PDF Specsheet:

I liked more the old base...

(thanks to Chicco#32 for the indication)

Where is the video-clip of S1910 moving graphics??

However, excellent review!
Thanks the same...

P.S.
S1910 would have a small horizontal-viewing-angle problem with particular colors.
The same may be found in Samsung 193p and EIZO L768, but not in the L778 (it's correct?)
Some has an idea on the reasons of this difference?

Maybe L778 use something different polarizer, back-light, ... ?

SID 2005: LCD’S FULL METAL JACKET (search "nitto denko")
Polarizing film with viewing angle compensation film

ViewSonic VP191b will be replaced

The 3rd generation ViewSonic VP191 will soon be replaced by the VP930 with the new AU Optronics panel M190EG01 V0 (?)

The VP930b model is already introduced in various online shops.

*** notice that at present this is unofficial and unconfirmed ***

Thanks tetsuo
I know the VP191 review conclusions and the reliability of this site.
I had been the first Italian Prad estimator...

We are only trying to understad the reasons of contrasting opinions.
There is the BeHardware (english version of Hardware.fr) review about the Fujitsu-Siemens P19-2:
19” LCD monitor survey: 4, 8 ms, TN, IPS, VA…

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The result is so bad that we even asked ourselves if it wasn’t better before…the characters are all followed by a trail of light comparable to comet tails. There is something like a white fog behind them. It isn’t aesthetically pleasing and is tiring for our eyes as the monitor has some difficulties and gets blurred.
(...)

- Strong afterglow
- Indispensable calibration
- Price
- Twinkling effects in movies

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Because the LCD's response time is a very subjective matter...
I have thought to ask Prad if they can include a comparative video-clip in the next EIZO S1910 review.
They already have done it in the past.

I think the brighter streaks can be explained by the overdrive working principle.
During the transition from a color to another there is a quick jump to white.
Because the white-to-middletone passage is much faster than middletone-to-middletone.
(I hope to have understand)

Regards

I've read that Prad are preparing an EIZO S1910 review.
In an italian monitor forum we are debating on which it's the best 19'' VA gaming panel from the AU Optronics MVA (ViewSonic VP191 8ms GTG) and Samsung PVA (Eizo L778, Fujitsu-Siemens P19-2, ...).
The dispute is born from the reviews of a well-know French site (I don't make the name) who are saying that the ViewSonic VP191 is far superior to Fujitsu-Siemens P19-2 and other PVA based monitors.

So... I would ask if you can include in the next review a comparison video-clip that show the VP191 and S1910 ghosting.
Personally, I have not doubts when you saying that all VA+overdrive LCDs have similar ghosting.
It's only a suggestion to make a still more useful review...

Thanks

The new Samsung SyncMaster 770P (17'') and 970P (19'').
PVA + overdrive to reach 6ms response time.

The BeHardware news:
PVA 6ms on its way!

Here you can find specs, images, brochure and 3D presentation of the 770P (and often 970P).

They seems very nice monitors...

The Samsung PVA panel LTM210M2:

Size: 24.0" (clearly it's 21'')
Resolution: Wide SXGA+
Number of Pixels: 1,680 x 1,050
Active Area(mm): 453.6 x 283.5
Pixel Pitch(mm): 0.270
Mode: S-PVA
Number of Colors: 16.7M
Contrast Ratio(typ.): 1,000:1
Brightness(cd/m2): 400 (Eizo 450)
Response Time(ms at 25°C): 8ms (GTG)
Viewing Angle(U/D/L/R): 89/89/89/89
Interface: LVDS 2Ch
Outline Dimension(mm): 477.6 x 307.5 x 22.0
Weight(g): 3,000
Production: 1Q,'05
Color Gamut(%): 72%

*** EIZO FlexScan S2110W ***

Size: 21'' wide
Resolution: 1680x1050
Viewing angle H/V: 178°
Brightness: 450 cd/m2
Contrast: 1000:1
Response time: 16ms WBW / 8ms GTG

It seems a Samsung PVA + overdrive (?)

Hardware.fr says that the AU Optronics MVA panel (ViewSonic VP191 8ms) is much more faster than Samsung PVA counterpart.

(BeHardware is the english branch of Hardware.fr)

This will become L769-AS in Europe?

Tom's Hardware says the overdrive, due to its nature, can cause some video noise in moving graphics.
The Hardware.fr VP191 review talk about color artifacts in particular DVD scene.
However the final evaluation is very positive.

It would be very interesting to compare the AU Optronics solution (VP191) with the Samsung counterpart (Fujitsu-Siemens P19-2 or Eizo L778 ).
I hope Prad will make this wish a reality...
:]

Drawbacks of the overdrive are explained in this good Tom's Hardware France article:

Seems that Samsung will delay the 193P+ release until August or September.

Samsung seems to delay new products.

ADCC is the acronym of "Advanced Dynamic Capacitance Compensation".
The Samsung version of the overdrive technology.