Help me choose between Samsung 193P and LG L1930B

i like the 1930B as well.

you can read a good review at:

are you happy with your one?

Hehe. I was a bit knocked of my socks for a week or so. But nickynick filled in good and actually answered a bit better than I would have. Colorshift is better if you dont really hate the violet hue which is common on IPS screens when viewing at angles.

As for crystal effect I dont know at all. But from nickynicks description it would be the same thing you can see on CRTs with with low dot pitch when you look close. Gaps between holes that forms a pattern. Before that explanation I thought the crystal effect was the glittering effect you can see when examining the surface.. but I see some of that on all TFTs.. they are liquid _crystal_ displays after all.

Hmm.. got a wondering. If the gaps are larger between pixels on IPS perhaps the pixels will be more distinct and sharper than the other displays? I suppose it would in the same reasoning be worse for interpolation resolution.

As for TomsHarware: Almost all reviewers tend to read specs, then test and then write a specs-biased review.

So you got the L1930B. I'm really looking forward to your text-sharpness impression from that monitor.

Yomat: glad to have you back =) You are right about the violet hue being typical for IPS panels, however it only gets annoying at large viewing angles and especially at diagonal viewing angles. When you are just wobbling on your chair, the minimal color shift or violet hue on an IPS will not disturb, but on a TN or VA it does (at least IMO).

As to the crystal effect: I'm not 100% sure it is due to the gaps but I strongly suspect it. Rereading my previous post, I notice I wrote a mistake: in IPS panels there is no electrode on the front glass plate (as I wrote there), but on the contrary: all electrodes of a subpixel have to be on the back glass plate. As a consequence, a larger area of the back glass plate is covered and not transparent. The black mask in the color filter (which determines the color of each subpixel; the black mask is a black border around the subpixel) must cover the electrode areas. As a consequence, a subpixel is no longer rectangular, rather it's like a rectangle of which a smaller rectangle has been removed in one of the corners (hard to explain, I need a drawing ). I think this irregularity causes the strange interference pattern when looking at the display. Or is it stray light that goes past the black mask because they make it just a little bit too tight to get as much light through a pixel as possible? I'm not sure... Since many people don't see the effect I'm more inclined to attribute the effect to some interference pattern...

Hmm. Not rectangular doesent sound that great. But even if IPS tech sounds messy VA isnt less messy it seems to me. Nevertheless, I think you have to experience this effect and then see you can see a pattern. I am sometimes working at a quite old highend 20" NEC LCD. I am pretty sure it must be IPS cause it has kind of violet hues when viewing at angles but still have amazing viewing angle for a 7 year old monitor. I cant see any patterns on this one at all. And you would think artifacts of this kind would be more common in older productions of a technology.

There are certainly other factors involved, e.g. on a 19" 1280x1024 panel the pixels are larger than on a 20" 1600x1200 panel. These dimensional factors may influence the interference pattern. IPS panels from NEC-LCD are called Super Fine TFT (SFT) instead of just "IPS", so maybe they have a slightly different approach which results in a more homogenous image.

Yes. I thought about that too several times. The pixel size should affect the properties in many different ways. However for me it is simplified since 19" is the only option I have. I'm a very oldschool computer user and also an ergonomy fanatic that cant stand when text and icons gets too small. I need it BIG!