Ich entdecke meinen neuen Sony X82 habe nicht Standard-RGB ClearType aber BGR... 
Ist nicht gut, weil ich Doppel-Monitor habe.
NEC 1880sx hat den gleichen Sony panel und BGR Entwurf?
X82 hat auch merkwürdigen "kristallenen" Schirm... alle IPS panels zu schauen, dieses zu haben?
Danke
Tut mir echt leid, aber ich verstehe wirklich nicht was Du meinst.
ZitatOriginal von miomao
NEC 1880sx hat den gleichen Sony panel und BGR Entwurf?
Der NEC 1880SX hat nicht das Panel vom Sony, das Layout bei NEC ist RGB.
Also Zwischenräume der Pixel sind sichtbar? Das hört sich jedenfalls nicht richtig an. Wie ist der Monitor überhaupt mit der Grafikkarte verbunden? Digital oder analog?
Welche Schriften verwendest Du denn? ClearType unter WindowsXP?
Und abschließend wäre noch zu klären in welcher Auflösung Dein TFT Monitor läuft.
Solltest Du mit dem Deutsch große Schwierigkeiten haben, dann wird man Dir hier sicherlich auch mit englisch weiterhelfen, obwohl es eigentlich ein deutschsprachiges Forum ist.
Woher kommst Du denn eigentlich?
I try to speak in english.
Ehm... I'm from Italy. 
Someone in the german monitor newsgroup tell me there is a great forum about LCD.
I don't understand german language and I hope this forum is not reserved to some shop customers, because is really unique.
Sony X82 is connected with DVI at native resolution.
It has great color accuracy.
I can see dark tints that with other monitors are invisible.
But.... It has very funny crystalline image.
In my secondary low price Philips LCD (MVA?)
color areas look clear and compact.
Sony color seem irregular and if I move the head
it change like an hologram... I can't explain better....
I've think to some antiglare treatment or
a ISP panel peculiarity (?)
Thanks anyway
The same crystaline effect has the NEC 1880 and 2080 but it is undistrubing and i think this is due to IPS Panel technologie. NEC use RGB but I dont know wich pattern Sony use. At the moment I have the 2080UX and the effect is quite less in comparison to the 1880SX.
If you go close to the Panel you can see on every TFT the spaces between pixel that is founded on the size of each pixel (Pixel Pitch) and their structure. From an 0.255mm Pixel Pitch it is impossible to see the dark space between every pixel only if you looking with a lens for.
Welcom on Board! Your german is very well but it is no problem to write in english.
Hi miomao and welcome "on board"!
I have the same TFT, X82, and I also can see those "black dots" between each pixel, when I get very close to the monitor with my eyes (<5cm). This is, as riju already said, normal and also depends on the size of the monitor. For example, 17", 18" and 19" LCDs nearly always use the same native resolution (1280x1024). That means that on a 17" screen the space between the pixels is smaller in comparison with a 19 inch monitor. What size is your Phillips LCD? If it's a 17" with a lower pixel pitch than the X82, it's no wonder that you first have to get used to work with the bigger TFT.
greetings,
Cash
Hello Cash
Thanks for the hospitality!
This is a dream place for a monitor lover like me :))
Yes, the space between pixel is not so visible.
I think this erroneously because the crystalline effect.
Now I've understand this is a normal IPS thing...
Tomorrow I goes to return the monitor...
the shop boys will not be too much satisfied.
But I can't use two monitors with different
ClearType scheme.
I've also returned a Samsung 191T, because the
bad response time and white color accuracy.
Now in the list I have:
ViewSonic VX800 (or VX900)
Acer AL732
Samsung 172T
Someone has a suggestion?
If I return something else someone
can beat me...
Thanks 1000000!
Hello miomao,
welcome on board.
It is an interesting observation, if Sony X82s should have an IPS-Panel with a BGR orientation. Usually IPS-Panels developed by NEC and used in 1880SX and other TFT types are characterzied by a RGB subpixel order.
Also Hitachi developes and produces IPS-Panels, but this ones own a BGR scheme! Maybe Sony uses Hitachi-IPS, but until now there are no official statements with Panels are inside of Sony-TFTs.
ZitatOriginal von Weideblitz
Maybe Sony uses Hitchi-IPS, but until now there are no official statements with Panels are inside of Sony-TFTs.
It was mentioned in some other threads that Sony IPS-Panels are probably manufactured by LG Philips.
Not really surprising imho, because Sony and Philips cooperate in other markets as well, like optical storage devices for instance.
According to a test in the magazine c't the Sony X82 is definitively using a LG-Philips IPS panel, which I have confirmed by looking at them side by side (the same heavy blueshift from the left and BGR ordering). All conventional IPS panels (that is non Super-IPS) do have a larger "Black Matrix" compared to TN panels in order to cover the inhomogeneous parts of the electromagnetic field between the electrodes of each pixel (which lie on the same side of the glass substrate, whereas in TN-Panels they lie on the opposite sides so there is essentially no inhomogeneous field). The grainy picture is therefore more or less typical for all normal IPS-type panels.
ZitatOriginal von Jetson
It was mentioned in some other threads that Sony IPS-Panels are probably manufactured by LG Philips.
Not really surprising imho, because Sony and Philips cooperate in other markets as well, like optical storage devices for instance.
Could also be. As also mherm mentioned in the c't test was really found a LG-Philips IPS-Panel.
