HP LP2475w (24 inch) vs. Eizo S2232W (22 inch)

    • I'm looking for a good monitor for a grahpic work. Which one is the best solution: HP LP2475w (24 inch) or Eizo S2232W (22 inch)? Or maybe pick a different one within the same price range?
  • Do you know the colour range you work mostly in? Both monitors feature a wide gamut and therefore are better suited for AdobeRGB, not that much for the smaller sRGB. If you don't know anything about that stuff, you should definitely stick to sRGB and look for another model.

  • Do you know the colour range you work mostly in? Both monitors feature a wide gamut and therefore are better suited for AdobeRGB, not that much for the smaller sRGB. If you don't know anything about that stuff, you should definitely stick to sRGB and look for another model.

    I use AdobeRGB mosty for web design works and photo-retouch, but sometimes I also create posters for print in CMYK. It's something about 80% RGB and 20% print in CMYK. So, the best idea is to pick something different or stick with one on these models?

  • Switching between aRGB and sRGB is no easy task, at least on the fly. You have to completely calibrate anew, which is always a quarter of a valuable hour lost. The only really fast and reliable exception is the Eizo CG-series with their incredible possibilities, but it cost an arm, leg and perhaps a part of your liver at least. You can save two different profiles, and write down the values you used on your monitor for both, this will be good enough for a fast and not-for-finish proofing, but I wouldn't rely on it, if it is for something important. Sadly, it is difficult to find a monitor showing acceptable capabilities in both worlds.


    The Dell 2408WFP is incredible in aRGB, rivalling the best Eizo CGs in this regard for pure visual impression. But it sucks in sRGB, even after calibration. I think it would be sufficient for web design, because you never know how it will look on the screen of your customer and so you have more of a playing field, but I would never use it for the proof of a print.


    And this problem is inherited in the differences between the two colour ranges. Two overcome or better, to minimize this, you have to put a lot of smartness into the electronics. Something you won't find in any mass market monitor out there. That is something where the specialists really can show their muscles. The first good options are NEC 2490WUXi² and 2690WUXi². Perhaps you can find the older 2690WUXi for a good price, at least in Germany there are some cheap offers available only in grey and they are a bargain at roughly 750,-€. The brand new Dell U2410 has some nice features, but I haven't seen a convincing review of its colour competence yet. It has a slightly more modern version of the IPS panel used in the HP and sports a 10 bit LUT as well as a factory calibration for aRGB and sRGB. Sounds good, but we will see, how well this is implemented. The panel is a fine one, but not without its problems as the HP has shown.

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    Switching between aRGB and sRGB is no easy task, at least on the fly. You have to completely calibrate anew, which is always a quarter of a valuable hour lost.


    Just to avoid possible misunderstandings: Besides a color space emulation you don't have to switch the profile because you don't calibrate towards a certain color space. With the information in the ICC profile a CMM can accomplish the appropriate transformation - independent from the working color space. You only have to recalibrate (includes a profilation) if you want to change the white point for example or the settings and profile are no longer accurate enough.


    When using the color space emulation on an Eizo CG a new profile is created that describes the new simulated color space. But you can switch between different targets and their related profiles with just one click.


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    But it sucks in sRGB, even after calibration.


    We have changed the measurement methods - the "old" data doesn't describe the behaviour in colour aware software. I think that we have spoken about this in an other german thread - I just wanted to clarify this in english too.


    Best regards


    Denis

  • Thank you for your answers!


    I don't have much money for a new monitor right now, so the best option will be brand new Dell U2410 (the price is good for me) - I think, I'll give it a try.


    And there goes another question: I don't have any calibrator yet. Is it device a must have for a work with this new monitor or I just can live without it?

  • Go for an Eizo sRGB SPVA. They are the most accurate in your price segment.
    I really dislike the white glow and the lack of contrast on the H-IPS ones in the Dell and the HP.
    Got here an Eizo 2431, a 2031, a 2231, all excellent, perfect sRGB out of the box and the brightness sensor is a must have.
    The HP 2475 is very nice subjectively, but the viewing angles, contrast and accuracy are definitely worse than the PVA Eizo's.